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I I plagiarized this title from the

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terrific survey the Jaguars own

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published a few years ago entitled from

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dawn to decadence 1500 to the present

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500 years of Western cultural life

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modern science of course is an integral

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part of Western cultural life and I

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suggest that it has gone through the

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same up and down of from dawn to

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decadence here's how science has changed

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it started as an idealistic or at least

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as a disinterested vocation people

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simply curious about how the world works

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and trying to find out about that to a

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self-interested profession and we should

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be aware we should remember what George

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Bernard Shaw said that all professions

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there's no question that there have been

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tremendous technological advances but

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there has also been a proliferation of

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absolutely mediocre so-called research

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and one of the discussions of that was

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actually written a dozen years ago by

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Jane Klein a an immunologist published

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in a mainstream journal an article

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entitled the hegemony of mediocrity in

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contemporary sciences particularly in

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immunology and that paper is worth

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reading because it is not an abstract

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generalized rant he gives specific

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examples and points out how much of the

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published so-called research really

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added nothing to the store of knowledge

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and the chief criterion was

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that people needed to pad their Vita not

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that there were things that needed to be

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communicated there's been a corruption

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by conflicts of interest it may not be

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true that the love of money is the root

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of all evil but it is the root of quite

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a lot of evil over all I suggest I

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assert that science nowadays is

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bureaucratic centralized and there is

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politicized control of funding and

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publication and that is produced and had

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Germany of mainstream dogma and the

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suppression of minority views now I

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can't give chapter and verse to all

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those assertions in the space of of this

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talks I'm going to concentrate on just

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two points to be made and the first one

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is that since about the middle of the

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20th century there has been a change in

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the way research is done that is not a

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matter of degree but a matter of kind

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there's been a structural change in how

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research is carried on and 21st century

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science is a different thing than early

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20th century science the second point is

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that the proper and useful conservatism

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of science of skepticism toward

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revolutionary claims which has always

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existed it's become outright suppression

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of any heterodox views exclusion from

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funding and publication and active

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harassment and personal attacks so I'm

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not suggesting there's been a change of

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degree in resistance but that it's

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really quite different and I'm not the

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only person who has made that a

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in fact Derek de sóller price a

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historian of science with a background

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in physics predicted that there would be

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crises in scientific activity in the

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second half of the 20th century price

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had found that since the 17th century by

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any measure science had grown at an

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exponential rate doubling about every 15

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years twice as many journals twice as

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many articles and so on John Simon in

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his book Prometheus Bound in 1994

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pointed out that more and more people

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doing research were beholden to patrons

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the people who supported the work and

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that they were not free agents following

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their own inclination to discover things

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Richard Linton a climate scientist asked

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rhetorically is climate science designed

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to answer questions and it isn't Philip

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Moravsky is a an economist who has just

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published a book called science Mart ma

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RT and he describes contemporary science

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as a set of Ponzi schemes and the short

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description of that that he gave me is

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it promises more than it can deliver but

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it didn't start that way necessarily and

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my book that I hope will come out later

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this year is on the same theme and an

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article I published in 2004 in in JSC

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called 21st century science knowledge

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monopolies and research cartels really

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make some of these points or

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so the business meeting disturbed me

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considerably because in 30 years I've

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never heard such a gloomy prognosis on

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finances and I think it's obvious that

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we need to attract new members and I

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think that the fields in which there is

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suppression of minority views which I'm

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gonna run through in a minute represent

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places where we can look for potential

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recruits bearing in mind however very

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much that as we look for recruits from

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mainstream areas we pay attention to the

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things that John Alexander pointed to

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this society started with people from a

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variety of disciplines interested in a

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variety of subjects with the one

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commonality that the subjects we were

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interested in were despised by

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mainstream science nowadays in an

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increasing number of mainstream

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disciplines you have people who are

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being shoved aside excommunicated simply

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acknowledged facts differs from the

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mainstream dogma and I'll run quickly

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through some of these areas you might

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think that in pure science so-called

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a total suppression of minority views

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string theory Lee Smolin in the trouble

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with physics and Peter white in not even

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wrong a physicist who himself has worked

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in string theory and a mathematician

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point out that if you do theoretical

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physics nowadays and you do not

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subscribe to string theory you're going

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to have a very hard time getting a

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job if you have a job a hard time

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getting promoted hard time getting

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funding hard time getting published in

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cosmology if you don't subscribe to the

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Big Bang Theory

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it might happen to you has happened to

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Helton app that you stop getting

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observation time on telescopes and up

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actually emigrated it to Germany to

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continue his research dinosaur

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extinction according to the conventional

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wisdom everybody knows that the impact

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of an asteroid caused the extinction of

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the dinosaurs that everyone who knows

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that doesn't include a lot of

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paleontologists whose specialty this is

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and one of those paleontologists Yui

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MacLean was told by Louis Alvarez a

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proponent of the asteroid hypothesis

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that he would destroy Dewey's career if

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he didn't stop criticizing and he did in

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fact try to stop do his promotion to

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full professor there are other fields

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where it's not really pure science there

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are obvious applications in psychiatry

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adherence to drag centered treatment and

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criticizing that without changing the

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pseudoscience I invite them to take a

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dogma that physicians react against at

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their peril the sense of smell

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basis of which he has been far more

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successful in developing useful

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commercial perfumes than people using

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different odors but he's been

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that has had to start their own

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organization in their own publication

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discussions of the various phenomena

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that cannot be explained under the

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conventional paradigm and the two

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HIV causes AIDS you are called an AIDS

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denialist and you are equated with

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happened if you claim that global

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warming is not to any extent caused by

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human activities you called a global

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and similarly despised and refused

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publication on both of those there are

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thousands of qualified people who

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express the minority view and it is

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actually the case that there is no

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credible evidence that HIV causes AIDS

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there is no credible evidence that human

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activities significantly increase the

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rate of global warming I have had time

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only to provoke a little bit with these

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assertions I'm hoping that later this

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year this book will appear in which I

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document these things and try to offer a

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discussion of how we got here thank you

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first line Thank You Henry great talk

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how do you relate the issues that you're

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raising to the crisis in science

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education then losing you so much media

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we need to have more science education

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we need more better educated public

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around science what do you see the

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relationship is to that I think the

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fundamental problem is that there's too

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much so-called science being done and

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there's I mean there's it's a general

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rule that as you increase quality

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quantity the quality tends to go down we

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have a situation now where there are far

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more people wanting to do research and

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asking for funding than is available and

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the tremendous increase in open fraud

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and dishonesty in science which was very

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rare up to about 1980 and it's now

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common enough that there are actually

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research units on ethics in science and

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so on when I started in science you know

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what it takes what does that have to do

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with science but there's a serious lack

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of reality in science education we're

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still teaching people that there's a

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scientific method you learn it delivers

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reliable results the fact of the matter

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is that science is done by human beings

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who have to judge the results of

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so Henry my experience in academia

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repeatedly echoes what you've said and

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and and so there's there's no question

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to all of us that you're right

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still I wonder if there if one can be an

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optimist here be and so how might one be

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an optimist I suppose one way might be

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to say it's always been bad and still

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think good things leak through and it

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will happen again another perhaps is

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that this this current paradigm is just

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gonna burn itself out and there will be

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a change because there has to be I

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realize you've been particularly burned

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recently with your stance on aids and

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HIV and so you're suffering from it but

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do you see some positive movements I

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don't know where the positive change is

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going to come from but it has to come at

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I haven't incidentally I haven't been

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heard by my stances because I've been

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happily retired for ten years but sooner

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or later reality has to catch up and in

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the case of hiv/aids I think it's going

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discovered that the people who are told

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they're HIV positive and who are being

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the paradigm the trouble is that that

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these issues are all systemic what do

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you do to make the evaluation of

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people's work not based on getting

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grants I mean how do you accomplish that

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I mean Peter Peter Duesberg at Berkeley

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is is refused access to graduate

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students because his department had said

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in order to support graduate students we

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guarantee them support for four years

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the department can only do it for

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one year if you don't have grant funds

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equal to a quarter of a million dollars

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a year we're not going to let you take a

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grade your students now you know I'd

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like to be optimistic but how do you

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change the system away from that I think

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I really agree with you but one of the

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things that seems to have crossed my

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mind recently is that more and more

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through maybe even the last 10 or 15

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years that a good bit of the public

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policy decision decisions that affect

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our lives are not made on real science

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but are made on political people wanting

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to gain power or control or something

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else and that most of what happens to us

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now is based on lies and I think that's

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that and I don't know how we overcome

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that right I mean this is the crucial

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issue how is public policy gonna be

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based on evidence when the mainstream

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advice from the scientific community is

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not based on that and things are so

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politicized that if you question

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hiv/aids or global warming you are

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referred to not only as a denialist but

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as a right-wing kook because it happens

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that some very conservative

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organizations have taken the stance that

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global warming is you know as a liberal

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conspiracy unfortunately I need to add

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to your list of separation one physicist

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from England Stephen Phillips if you

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heard about him he wrote a book ESP or

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quarks in superstrings

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and in my opinion this book really

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opened some new horizons for our physics

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but it's completely ignored and I would

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recommend everybody who is interested in

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this part of science look at this book

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as too

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how to fight with this situation I think

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that organized societies like ours and

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create if you wish our own civilization

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main science